I cannot relate to this.

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04/26/2016 at 20:14 • Filed to: None

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Kinja'd!!! OPPOsaurus WRX > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/26/2016 at 20:29

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I’d be happy with a pair of computer speakers that both work. At least I don’t have to bring my own TP to this office


Kinja'd!!! PowderHound > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/26/2016 at 20:29

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Do they do any work or just fuck about all day


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > PowderHound
04/26/2016 at 20:32

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Yeah. That’s kind of how I felt. I have a nephew who is slogging along several years into a startup and he has wound up on the side of things that deals with personnel. And the guys who work for him, when they do any work, are a bunch of lazy punks. Lazy misogynistic punks, I’d guess.


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > OPPOsaurus WRX
04/26/2016 at 20:38

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LOL! I’d be happy to bring my own TP if it didn’t tear up my bung hole and I otherwise liked my job.

I’m a teacher and I buy — or otherwise acquire — all of my own computer stuff because then it’s mine and I have all the passwords and install whatever I want and take it with me when I move to the next room or the next job.


Kinja'd!!! PowderHound > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/26/2016 at 20:43

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Something about being at work and not doing anything would drive me crazy. Hell, my job can be slow sometimes and I'm actively seeking out things to do so I'm not bored out of my mind.


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > PowderHound
04/26/2016 at 21:37

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I can handle busy days, or dead days.

It’s those days where the work is sporadic that get me.


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/26/2016 at 21:53

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The economy is getting close to crashing. They paid for it by stealing from all of us this time, too, through massive market swings (our 401(k) accounts have been decimated) and massive inflation...


Kinja'd!!! mattc993 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/26/2016 at 22:08

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Looks great.


Kinja'd!!! PowderHound > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
04/26/2016 at 22:17

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The more I think of it that might be it. If it's dead I can find something to occupy my time all day but the sporadic days are just brutal to my head.


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
04/27/2016 at 00:16

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Feels like it felt the last time. Can’t hire enough people, crazy valuations...


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/27/2016 at 03:35

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I work in the industry. It’s definitely happening again and has been ramping up longer than it did during the dot-com bubble. Pay jumps for moving around at this point are almost impossible to ignore. When I could more than double my already-decent salary by just changing jobs and people were balking at what I was asking 3 years ago, you know something is wrong. These bubbles never become the new normal, even if employment in the field probably passed dot-com levels in 2010 or so.

They think it is different, and it is to some extent, but the difference is that there are fewer small well-funded startups and more enormous startups with no revenue or realistic business model.

Another sign that reminds me of back then is that head hunters have started getting desperate, while simultaneously being extremely flaky (when money is flooding in, there's no reason to really work at your job). The lowest-grade candidates I have interviewed over the last 2-3 years have all been from head hunters, with the last year being the worst I've ever seen.


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/27/2016 at 04:20

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To expand on a little of the above, the people that are “career grade” in the industry reached full employment in 2005-2007, depending on your region (CA was an exception, where the tech depression following the dot-com bust never left these people unemployed). By that period, everyone I knew that was in the industry for the long haul, regardless of locality, was employed.

The uptake of new grads has been solid since then with only a small dip around the housing bubble collapse. We were probably roughly normal (except with an already-unusual amount of startup activity) until about 2010. Most of the industry was almost completely immune to the housing bust as it was already cut to the bone and those that were employed were generally of top quality.

The most scary thing to me is that in the last couple years we’ve started to see a lot of new career education companies appearing while the availability of decent talent has declined. This is my strongest sign of overshoot, as you started seeing these small training companies appear in about 1996, become mainstream in 1998, and the bubble went in 2001. If that is any indicator (and I believe it is), combined with the massive investments we’re seeing now, it is probably no more than 1-2 years from a major correction. An overall economic correction would probably set it off this time just like it did last time.

I’m wondering if the shaky market we are seeing this year is going to ultimately result in a bust. Recessions/depressions have clustered around election years since I’ve been an adult.


Kinja'd!!! Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
04/29/2016 at 19:11

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Sorry about being so slow to reply. Are you in California? I am a middle school math teacher in the Bay Area and I have a good bit of experience in I.T., and I had a job as a database manager that I basically got because the hiring market was nuts, but I wasn’t cut out for it and I left long after they should have already canned me.

I attended a national conference this year in Palm Springs: Computer Using Educators, and the keynote was the founder of Code.org who said lots of moving things about Computer Science and how that’s the skill to have and how girls , in particular, can move way beyond where they might otherwise, having some coding skills. I know enough about coding and numerical analysis, I believe, that with web-based apps such as Bootstrap , I could provide 7th & 8th graders with a meaningful basis and some computational math skills.

But if another dot-com cyst is about to burst, could my efforts and that man’s comments be misguided?